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| Mets-Willets Point Station. (Photo credit: Flickr User thewilltorock) |
Many passengers who arrive at Mets-Willets Point have to transfer at Woodside at some point during their trip. Not a lot of trains make stops at Woodside (during the off-peak period Ronkonkoma and Long Beach trains usually do, but Huntington and Babylon trains usually make Forest Hills and Kew Gardens and skip over Woodside.) So there are many people who would have to change at Jamaica first.
The LIRR's tariff (fare) policy also makes a kind concession to Mets-Willets Point customers. Normally, if you are traveling in one direction and want to change trains to go back in the other direction, you would have to pay what's called the "via" fare (which is the most expensive of the two legs + $1.00 (most times)). But for customers going to Mets-Willets Point they only have to pay the normal zone 1 from the station they're traveling. The extra leg to Mets-Willets Point is "on the house."
When you get a ticket via Woodside to Mets-Willets point it also prints another second strip of boxes for the conductors to punch. This one ticket I found in my drawer from when I took my nephew to a game doesn't seem to have anything punched in that second set of boxes, oddly enough.
As far as traveling via Woodisde works with the peak vs. off peak fares I'm not quite sure how that works out. I know the eastbound trains TO the game on weekday evenings are considered peak trains, and for via fares the whole trip is considered peak if any one segment requires a peak ticket, but my initial assumption is that if you're coming from a place like Mineola for an evening weekday game, an off-peak ticket would be good enough (even though you are spending a couple minutes on a peak train). I've never done it, since commutation tickets are valid to Mets-Willets Point (unlike Belmont Park). In addition, beginning with the last fare hike, the Family Fare tickets are now valid on all Mets-Willets Point trains (since the family fare tickets are now only not allowed on AM Peak trains).
Last year, there was a quirk in the Port Washington Branch Mets-Willets Point service that would provide half-hourly service to stations on days of Mets Games and only hourly service at all other times on weekends. Luckily, Port Washington Branch half-hourly service has now been restored, so there shouldn't be that confusion anymore.
For now, you can find a pdf file of this year's Mets game day schedule for your purusal. Let's hope we're using it all the way into the postseason this year!
And, before I forget, be sure to check out this post for information on how to get to Citi Field from any LIRR station, if you're unsure.

How many commuters would be better served by Hunterspoint/Atlantic than either Grand Central or Penn? Once ESA is finished, how much room is there to send trains to Queens and Brooklyn without reducing Manhattan service? If throughput at Jamaica is an issue, is there a better way to increase the number of Manhattan bound trains without making the transfer to Brooklyn an up and over? Maybe move Manhattan terminals to zone 0 if you want to encourage some people to use Hunterspoint/Atlantic.
ReplyDeleteI have another map covering the city like the one above that includes Grand Central that I will post at some point, and there are still large parts of Manhattan (particularly lower Manhattan) that are better served by going someplace else.
ReplyDeleteThere can still be space on the LIRR's branches for Brooklyn and Hunterspoint Avenue trains. The point I'm trying to make is that only about 75% of the LIRR's AM Peak travelers (once you include intra-island travelers), actually go to Manhattan, so concentrating 100% of the LIRR's efforts on only 75% of the riders is a bit out of whack.
But the sad thing is that with a secondary track, how do trains operate and since no more signals? Cause I am a fan of them.
ReplyDeleteThe Eastbound PM Peak Train's last run was on May 14, 2010. Just wanted to let you know
ReplyDelete(I'm not trying to be rude or criticising, though)
theres no need for both LIC and Hunters point. I used to use both.
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